From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass (mailfrom) smtp.mailfrom=pi.pe (client-ip=85.119.248.204; helo=smtp004.apm-internet.net; envelope-from=tim@pi.pe; receiver=) Received: from smtp004.apm-internet.net (smtp004.apm-internet.net [85.119.248.204]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36708A8E516 for ; Thu, 03 Oct 2024 14:37:07 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=pi.pe; h=content-type :mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; s=default; bh=1O15uzn03b/hOU5NaArBvAtHr5ky1hwFQCsy5lEjxOU=; b=SsrJwt7+xLh/ Sd6FkY1YEiaMEhifjjvZPVhDn2cPalxYyyJAS9kGGZao6EBfqxQvmIde9CyWv+j9 sIdQfNeM9EiqzhYqpdAR3ri4pSXaurjZYVx6McufpUflHByH6V+3hFEFibhXolPq vwldh3L+6a64+alqPrhFMqZbt/M0/o0= Received: (qmail 76984 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2024 12:32:06 -0000 X-APM-Out-ID: 17279587267698 X-APM-Authkey: 255286/0(253943/0) 408 Received: from unknown (HELO zimbra003.verygoodemail.com) (85.119.248.218) by smtp004.apm-internet.net with SMTP; 3 Oct 2024 12:32:06 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra003.verygoodemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11C382407; Thu, 3 Oct 2024 13:37:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from zimbra003.verygoodemail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra003.verygoodemail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavis, port 10026) with ESMTP id P9lMHl4WnQUF; Thu, 3 Oct 2024 13:37:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [192.67.4.106]) by zimbra003.verygoodemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7FF9582320; Thu, 3 Oct 2024 13:37:06 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3776.700.51\)) From: Tim Panton In-Reply-To: <87a5flcsct.wl-jch@irif.fr> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2024 13:36:55 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1B9AC90A-D15F-4160-8990-0BE189530E4E@pi.pe> References: <87ed4xctlu.wl-jch@irif.fr> <87a5flcsct.wl-jch@irif.fr> To: Juliusz Chroboczek X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3776.700.51) Message-ID-Hash: WFYX6XQ3CSRL4CRXFILTWRO36FMRPBE3 X-Message-ID-Hash: WFYX6XQ3CSRL4CRXFILTWRO36FMRPBE3 X-MailFrom: tim@pi.pe X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: galene@lists.galene.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9 Precedence: list Subject: [Galene] Re: Good news: I'm now working on Galene (almost) full time List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Gal=C3=A8ne_videoconferencing_server_discussion_list?= Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: > On 3 Oct 2024, at 12:56, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: >=20 >> Purely selfishly I=E2=80=99d like to see WHEP support >=20 > Unfortunately, WHEP is not expressive enough to work with Galene. = Galene > will occasionally tear down a stream and replace it with a new one = (the > client hides the transition from the user), for example when changing = the > simulcast envelope, and I don't see how to express that in WHEP. >=20 > If you see a solution, I'll be delighted to implement WHEP, since I'm > very keen on open protocols. Given that WHEP isn=E2=80=99t signed off yet - we should raise that and = see what the group says. >=20 >> - and/or possibly a =E2=80=98default to full screen view only = client=E2=80=99 mode. >=20 > Sure, but I'd need to understand the use case. Could you describe = exactly > what you'd use that for? >=20 We have situations where we have a group of viewers watching an event on = a big screen or smart tv. They aren=E2=80=99t participants in the discussion - but they do want to = see/hear the panel (say), or see the view from a car mounted camera. I think these are different use cases though because the 1st one needs = to display multiple streams but the second is almost certainly a single = stream. T. > -- Juliusz