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d="scan'208,217";a="28314124" Received: from mta-out1.infra.umontpellier.fr ([193.51.152.133]) by smtp-gw5.umontpellier.fr with ESMTP; 24 Apr 2021 08:43:44 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: remy.dernat@umontpellier.fr) by mta-out1.infra.umontpellier.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7861780018; Sat, 24 Apr 2021 08:43:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2021 08:43:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: <97DBF0C5-E363-4D58-A061-F8647F34CBE3@rouillier.fr> References: <87tunxarp0.wl-jch@irif.fr> <97DBF0C5-E363-4D58-A061-F8647F34CBE3@rouillier.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----DL3C16TAK5I1XZ2UM9KV8E29PP8CYJ" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: galene@lists.galene.org,Fabrice Rouillier ,Juliusz Chroboczek From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=E9my_Dernat?= Message-ID: <4D6953F3-9F5D-4078-8B89-4E206C2E387D@umontpellier.fr> Message-ID-Hash: T4ZAOGTT6IQJDSRDDFSDZMI4CNRWQL5J X-Message-ID-Hash: T4ZAOGTT6IQJDSRDDFSDZMI4CNRWQL5J X-MailFrom: remy.dernat@umontpellier.fr X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.4 Precedence: list Subject: [Galene] =?utf-8?q?Re=3A_Gal=C3=A8ne_management_interface?= List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Gal=C3=A8ne_videoconferencing_server_discussion_list?= Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: ------DL3C16TAK5I1XZ2UM9KV8E29PP8CYJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I agree with Fabrice=2E Considering the second option (having the admin interface embedded with ga= lene), it would ensure code compatibility between admin webui and the core = of galene itself, even between upgrades=2E If it is maintained as a plugin *compatible* system, that is also fine to = me=2E It just needs to be compatible even after an upgrade=2E Thanks, Best regards, Le 24 avril 2021 07:49:15 GMT+02:00, Fabrice Rouillier a =C3=A9crit : >Hi Juliusz > >In terms of usage, having a sophisticated administration interface >allows to delegate many tasks to privileged users and is thus an added >value when using the software collectively=2E > >For a more personal use or if the number of privileged users stays low, >the current situation looks fine since it is light=2E > >I guess that Galene is a fantastic software for a =C2=AB personal =C2=BB = use=20 >(teaching, conferences with a low number of webcams ) and thus it does >not seem to be a problem in that case to have a rudimentary interface=2E > >So one then compare 1 privileged user =3D 1 galene server with >rudimentary administration interface vs 1 unique server with a >sophisticated administration interface=2E > >The first situation lead to some other problems such as having >different ports opened for different servers =2E > >What would be the additional effort in having both (for example a >choice =C3=A0 compile time) ? > >Cheers, > > >Fabrice > >------------------------- >Fabrice Rouillier >fabrice@rouillier=2Efr > >Bureau virtuel : https://www=2Erouillier >=2Efr/visio/fabrice > > > > > >> Le 23 avr=2E 2021 =C3=A0 18:31, Juliusz Chroboczek a = =C3=A9crit : >>=20 >> Dear all, >>=20 >> There's been a submission for a management interface at >>=20 >> https://github=2Ecom/jech/galene/pull/82 >>=20 >> The main issue right now is whether this should be merged into the >Gal=C3=A8ne >> repository=2E My personal opinion right now (but I might still change >my >> mind) is that I'd like to see it in a separate repository (and Go >module) >> that depends on Gal=C3=A8ne=2E I've already started exporting some Gal= =C3=A8ne >> internals in order to avoid code duplication=2E >>=20 >> There are good reasons to keep the interface separate: >>=20 >> 1=2E Gal=C3=A8ne is intended to be easy to integrate into an existing >website >> (imagine adding videoconferencing functionality to a cat video >forum or >> an e-learning platform)=2E For embedding, it would probably be >better to >> provide the right hooks for an external interface rather than >> a complete management interface=2E >>=20 >> 2=2E People's opinions on management interfaces are likly to be >variable, >> and therefore it would be good to not bind too closely Gal=C3=A8ne wi= th >> a single management interface=2E >>=20 >> There are also some reasons to merge the two: >>=20 >> I=2E Having a single repository will make it easier to install both at >the >> same time=2E >>=20 >> II=2E Having a canonical management interface integrated with Gal=C3=A8= ne >will >> reduce user confusion=2E >>=20 >> I'd like to hear people's opinions on the subject=2E >>=20 >> -- Juliusz >> _______________________________________________ >> Galene mailing list -- galene@lists=2Egalene=2Eorg >> To unsubscribe send an email to galene-leave@lists=2Egalene=2Eorg ------DL3C16TAK5I1XZ2UM9KV8E29PP8CYJ Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

I agree with Fa= brice=2E

Considering the second option (having the admin interface e= mbedded with galene), it would ensure code compatibility between admin webu= i and the core of galene itself, even between upgrades=2E

If it is m= aintained as a plugin *compatible* system, that is also fine to me=2E It ju= st needs to be compatible even after an upgrade=2E

Thanks,

Be= st regards,

Le 24 avril 2021 07:49:15 GMT= +02:00, Fabrice Rouillier <fabrice@rouillier=2Efr> a =C3=A9crit : Hi Juliusz

In terms of= usage, having a sophisticated administration interface allows to delegate = many tasks to privileged users and is thus an added value when using the so= ftware collectively=2E

For a more personal use or if the number of privileged users stays lo= w, the current situation looks fine since it is light=2E

I guess that Galene is a fantastic = software for a =C2=AB personal =C2=BB  use  (teaching, = conferences with a low number of webcams ) and thus it does not seem to be = a problem in that case to have a rudimentary interface=2E

So one then compare   1 pri= vileged user =3D 1 galene server  with rudimentary administration inte= rface  vs   1 unique server with a sophisticated administration i= nterface=2E

The f= irst situation lead to some other problems such as  having different p= orts opened for different servers =2E

<= /div>
What would be the additional effort in having both (fo= r example a choice =C3=A0 compile time) ?

Cheers,

=

Fabrice

-------------------------
Fab= rice Rouillier
fab= rice@rouillier=2Efr

Bureau vir= tuel : https://www=2Ero= uillier=2Efr/visio/fabrice





L= e 23 avr=2E 2021 =C3=A0 18:31, Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif=2Efr> a =C3=A9crit :

Dear all,
There's been a submission for a management inter= face at

 https://github=2Ecom/jech/galene/pull/82

The main issue right now is whether this sh= ould be merged into the Gal=C3=A8ne
repository=2E  My pe= rsonal opinion right now (but I might still change my
mind) i= s that I'd like to see it in a separate repository (and Go module)
that depends on Gal=C3=A8ne=2E  I've already started exporting s= ome Gal=C3=A8ne
internals in order to avoid code duplication= =2E

There are good reasons to keep the interfa= ce separate:

1=2E Gal=C3=A8ne is intended to b= e easy to integrate into an existing website
  (im= agine adding videoconferencing functionality to a cat video forum or
  an e-learning platform)=2E  For embedding, it wou= ld probably be better to
  provide the right hooks= for an external interface rather than
  a complet= e management interface=2E

2=2E People's opinio= ns on management interfaces are likly to be variable,
 =  and therefore it would be good to not bind too closely Gal=C3=A8ne wi= th
  a single management interface=2E

There are also some reasons to merge the two:

I=2E Having a single repository will make it easier to ins= tall both at the
  same time=2E

II=2E Having a canonical management interface integrated with Ga= l=C3=A8ne will
   reduce user confusion=2E
I'd like to hear people's opinions on the subjec= t=2E

-- Juliusz
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