From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass (mailfrom) smtp.mailfrom=irif.fr (client-ip=2001:660:3301:8000::1:2; helo=korolev.univ-paris7.fr; envelope-from=jch@irif.fr; receiver=) Received: from korolev.univ-paris7.fr (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [IPv6:2001:660:3301:8000::1:2]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 032AC7C3DB0 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 02:00:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [81.194.30.253]) by korolev.univ-paris7.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/relay1/82085) with ESMTP id 10310KTr017704; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 02:00:20 +0100 Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4046CC3EBB; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 02:00:20 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at math.univ-paris-diderot.fr Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10023) with ESMTP id 4--cKQB-3Pzu; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 02:00:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from pirx.irif.fr (unknown [78.194.40.74]) (Authenticated sender: jch) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E4CF9C3EB8; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 02:00:18 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2021 02:00:18 +0100 Message-ID: <87eej2hm1p.wl-jch@irif.fr> From: Juliusz Chroboczek To: Michael =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Str=F6der?= In-Reply-To: <23913aea-038e-96de-560e-371972a3c222@stroeder.com> References: <23913aea-038e-96de-560e-371972a3c222@stroeder.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/27.1 Mule/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [194.254.61.138]); Sun, 03 Jan 2021 02:00:20 +0100 (CET) X-Miltered: at korolev with ID 5FF11724.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! 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B=0.000 -> S=0.000 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: 7AFCGS7GGIEUELSAVFPE63P6A6QGXNLB X-Message-ID-Hash: 7AFCGS7GGIEUELSAVFPE63P6A6QGXNLB X-MailFrom: jch@irif.fr X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.2 Precedence: list CC: galene@lists.galene.org Subject: [Galene] Re: read groups from API List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Gal=C3=A8ne_videoconferencing_server_discussion_list?= Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: > It would be helpful if groups could be retrieved from a simple web > service which just returns the JSON data. Why does that need to be part of Gal=E8ne ? Why can't it be a separate service that has access to the filesystem with Gal=E8ne's configuration files? This way, Gal=E8ne doesn't need write access to its configuration directory, which is good for security and simplifies deployment (you can run it in a read-only container). > This would make it possible to integrate with other database-backed > management systems so that implementing #11 is not really needed. I fully agree that the management interface should not be part of Gal=E8n= e itself: Gal=E8ne never writes to disk except if you ask it to record a fi= le, which means it can be run on a read-only filesystem, and that two instances of Gal=E8ne can use a single configuration directory. The plan is that Gal=E8ne should automatically pick up any change being m= ade to any of its configuration files; this is not quite the case yet: - changes to group definition files will be picked up the next time a client connects; - changes to the ice-servers.json file will be picked up after two minutes at most, but will only apply to new clients; - changes to the SSL key or to the data/passwd file are not picked up yet, but that is planned in the future. So my opinion is that an administrative interface should not be hacked into Gal=E8ne -- it should be a separate program that either has write access to the filesystem Gal=E8ne is running on, or a program running on a different host that propages changes over sftp or rsync. > I'd volunteer to implement an example web service based on Python with > fastapi module. Sure, and don't hesitate to suggest improvements to the configuration fil= e format. In particular, I'm not particularly fond of the current permissions system (op/presenter/other and allow-recording), it doesn't accurately reflect the one used in the protocol (permissions are a bitmap of orthogonal permissions, op/present/record; chat is currently implied, but will become an explicit permission in 0.2.) Please don't expect me to integrate any management interface to the main Gal=E8ne binary -- the management interface and Gal=E8ne should ideally o= nly communicate over the shared filesystem. -- Juliusz