From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Toke =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=toke.dk; s=20161023; t=1610151524; bh=k+c4PwKnh6uZ2dJhqAYWzM5gaSwLO0xvNuacmmnJiE8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=Fq+JB0vXb7GyxqIJQ6vLLiB7ybRGbDkZJqdRlmlUjxy/FwraGc0Yxd8JIhRO41Oaw LfJCkwgrqtbGtZfXK36hilUor/RJ9TSzJCp+4cVvJrBv5h1Wa4ZRUnS+c8m7kcVUd1 jjJJ3zMghg8d/dwZhPCn8aKBvJDNhialFWPysiq7T3LkW6fW3XAjLtAykZCmdPqH7b 1gtUIxjTcUCb2cmKEEsqycsHjvTDbQmp9ZbktyMD99vHwXQcwO2aE6+iLxRxW/HEKh zYq+T4o99+5+ik1vYcGlujaJDby++nGuJxy5a1EOxi8b0+O2uOu4NErwIHgOsi03Rp hJXZlEDzB2rOA== To: Juliusz Chroboczek In-Reply-To: <871rev6w4a.wl-jch@irif.fr> References: <875z485swt.wl-jch@irif.fr> <87wnwnha9w.fsf@toke.dk> <87v9c77e20.wl-jch@irif.fr> <87turrh6y2.fsf@toke.dk> <87mtxj789e.wl-jch@irif.fr> <87o8hzgr4j.fsf@toke.dk> <871rev6w4a.wl-jch@irif.fr> Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2021 01:18:44 +0100 X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <87im87gdy3.fsf@toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID-Hash: EEXB2Q7HPQ7B5G4WZ7WBUF5TQFIKROHB X-Message-ID-Hash: EEXB2Q7HPQ7B5G4WZ7WBUF5TQFIKROHB X-MailFrom: toke@toke.dk X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; suspicious-header CC: galene@lists.galene.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.2 Precedence: list Subject: [Galene] Re: Logging List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Gal=C3=A8ne_videoconferencing_server_discussion_list?= Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Juliusz Chroboczek writes: >> And one of these sides is always the Galene server, right? So if that >> has public IPs, TURN is only used as an alternative port if the client >> is behind a firewall blocking UDP? > > Assuming no firewall, that's correct, except for the case of repeated UDP > packet losses causing ICE fallback to TURN. > > Like you, I was hoping I could get away without using a TURN server. In > practice, I have found that there are just too many networks that block > outgoing traffic. So in this case, how is using a TURN server different than just having Galene itself listen on a bunch of UDP ports and offer each of those? -Toke