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B=0.000 -> S=0.000 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Message-ID-Hash: X27IVZLHMUN52XUJEA2DIP7J6CBORTQV X-Message-ID-Hash: X27IVZLHMUN52XUJEA2DIP7J6CBORTQV X-MailFrom: jch@irif.fr X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: galene@lists.galene.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9 Precedence: list Subject: [Galene] Re: Virtual groups v.s. new API branch List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Gal=C3=A8ne_videoconferencing_server_discussion_list?= Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: >> We use the "allow-subgroups" mechanism for that. We create a template >> group with "allow-subgroups" set to true, and subgroups are created on the >> fly when a user joins. > That sort of works - but we ended up (perhaps shooting ourselves in the > foot) by also configuring auth, presenters, if it could, or could not, > get recorded, etc. I see. >> with the group definition in the body. Perhaps it's worth adding >> "not-before" and "expires" fields to the group definition, and have groups >> be automatically purged by the server? > Not too worried about that - very easy to do with a DELETE from the > configuration service once every night or so. Ok. > So conceivably - the API with subgroups may works if you accept that you > get no 'callback' from Galene telling you that a new group was created > (and we set them to private - so no polling of the public-public.json). If you have an auth token, you can check if a group exists simply by doing HEAD to /galene-api/group/whatever/. No objection to implementing a callback, though, if for some reason you cannot poll the server. -- Juliusz