From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Toke =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=toke.dk; s=20161023; t=1611061648; bh=7i7/HD6qm04qc8CpZcWQHDV5678v2uqKWtPCye3xIf8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=EY10CF5IGM01ZQt3NeKHfh6RIpREip40GrjFmg0z6s9Etrh2VACHRJLkqw/UHg616 Wxy1VoAio3IUXoZGD27A7PrmuZ+VTuI5+1xTGJ7d5SvCuP23rRGIGDnPZ/ogssgKO7 Lp970nsY3v+nwEbbjOwBcuTTuyQzJCwiDj54Tv7znQPh60+i9wOZCYfaMHk5EWSibF lv9np9xn/zm8nksN8VqqweAZvYsvXXxFdj5sbDmhv9NcFxWE3VcvZMjoKvVBUJUwov GfsJUlAkkGloVFUkngf/CC7AFrziTcUXbRgGgOp0VpODY5Hq84KDdBrUYdHdrBIU+X a8lWc7qkULYyg== To: Juliusz Chroboczek In-Reply-To: <87turdnlc5.wl-jch@irif.fr> References: <87sg6yx7gy.wl-jch@irif.fr> <87zh16q61v.fsf@toke.dk> <87pn21yl6t.wl-jch@irif.fr> <87wnw9rjw7.fsf@toke.dk> <87mtx5yk96.wl-jch@irif.fr> <87o8hlridf.fsf@toke.dk> <87eeihyipm.wl-jch@irif.fr> <87lfcprgl4.fsf@toke.dk> <877do9ydvi.wl-jch@irif.fr> <875z3tqhbu.fsf@toke.dk> <87zh15nnxh.wl-jch@irif.fr> <87wnw9p1m4.fsf@toke.dk> <87turdnlc5.wl-jch@irif.fr> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2021 14:07:28 +0100 X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <87r1mhoz1r.fsf@toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: SNWH6TXJYCCEC3CDGO3SG4QFKTOKD4EP X-Message-ID-Hash: SNWH6TXJYCCEC3CDGO3SG4QFKTOKD4EP X-MailFrom: toke@toke.dk X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; suspicious-header CC: galene@lists.galene.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.2 Precedence: list Subject: [Galene] Re: Heads-up: built-in TURN server List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Gal=C3=A8ne_videoconferencing_server_discussion_list?= Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Juliusz Chroboczek writes: >>> Except that now I'm trying to update the README, and I'm finding the >>> behaviour impossible to explain concisely. I need to think. > >> How about: > > I think the problem is that the default value is not materialised =E2=80= =94 the > magic depends on whether the option was explicitly specified, the default > value does not correspond to any possible value of the command-line optio= n. > > I think the solution lies in making an explicit default value. I'm > thinking of "-turn auto" being the default, and behaving as we do > currently if the option was not specified. This is easier to explain, > gives a clearer mental image to the user, and has the added advantage of > being extensible -- people can hardly complain if the "auto" behaviour > changes between versions. Right, no objection to that! > (I'm must resist the temptation of calling the value "magic".) You could call it 'automagic'? ;) -Toke