From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=irif.fr; dkim=pass header.d=irif.fr; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=none Received: from korolev.univ-paris7.fr (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [IPv6:2001:660:3301:8000::1:2]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD174BB74EB for ; Fri, 01 Aug 2025 19:21:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from potemkin.univ-paris7.fr (potemkin.univ-paris7.fr [IPv6:2001:660:3301:8000::1:1]) by korolev.univ-paris7.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/relay1/82085) with ESMTP id 571HLlPZ017294 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 1 Aug 2025 19:21:47 +0200 Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [81.194.30.253]) by potemkin.univ-paris7.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/relay2/82085) with ESMTP id 571HLluL023682; Fri, 1 Aug 2025 19:21:47 +0200 Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D88F27965; Fri, 1 Aug 2025 19:21:47 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=irif.fr; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:message-id:date:date :received:received; s=dkim-irif; t=1754068906; x=1754932907; bh= DyHx7J0+fx59jifkfEXymcRGuiNo1YSsxk4NdHaKd5c=; b=N1XhtRK03l/Mpe5f R2a1+PVP/p5X+FnzY+Mc5I5T3clFGVajeTmwZWQU5kbqMh8JfP+0u/Kyi0Wg6Gu2 z9faCJ7lut/QqWq7eCqvXWDdVZSaSmGH8QTJAutB1OMUaAkWmHDxQs3pq22Z3ryw jqwKpqrNNLT0wX34TaHUxZZhVYCXfNS/ZWwViE4gvmwXKXXJEI1R2FekGe2Aocsd akmgfEhA2vAnir0yglajehn5nviQrisb6BIRw7G5QUKwPAZg+S9VTe0jLPKV4VOF mmNIS6Fj6lwP0xBJuhuGKj2d2NSmPMuIRntuxS75Y4iF8O30lBBqO/nEr/LG4FOt Yhf0oQ== X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at math.univ-paris-diderot.fr Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10023) with ESMTP id HsbMC55mydYH; Fri, 1 Aug 2025 19:21:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pirx.irif.fr (89-64-69-188.dynamic.play.pl [89.64.69.188]) (Authenticated sender: jch) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0A71227964; Fri, 1 Aug 2025 19:21:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2025 19:21:45 +0200 Message-ID: <87v7n7hs9i.wl-jch@irif.fr> From: Juliusz Chroboczek To: Dirk-Willem van Gulik Cc: galene@lists.galene.org In-Reply-To: References: <871ppvjh5s.wl-jch@irif.fr> <98770135-CFC2-4582-A6CA-9B672797F279@webweaving.org> <87wm7nhw9h.wl-jch@irif.fr> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/30.1 Mule/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [IPv6:2001:660:3301:8000::1:2]); Fri, 01 Aug 2025 19:21:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (potemkin.univ-paris7.fr [194.254.61.141]); Fri, 01 Aug 2025 19:21:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Miltered: at korolev with ID 688CF7AB.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-Miltered: at potemkin with ID 688CF7AB.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 688CF7AB.000 from potemkin.univ-paris7.fr/potemkin.univ-paris7.fr/null/potemkin.univ-paris7.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 688CF7AB.000 from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/null/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 688CF7AB.000 on korolev.univ-paris7.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.000 -> S=0.000 X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 688CF7AB.000 on potemkin.univ-paris7.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.000 -> S=0.000 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Message-ID-Hash: LYE2EWACLKEZ5ANNMSUWGIXNNLBCQUDL X-Message-ID-Hash: LYE2EWACLKEZ5ANNMSUWGIXNNLBCQUDL X-MailFrom: jch@irif.fr X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Galene] Re: Hierarchical tokens List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Gal=C3=A8ne_videoconferencing_server_discussion_list?= Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: >> I'd expect our tie-wearing friends to prefer using an authentication >> server and stateless tokens. This way, there's no user data in Galene >> itself, all the authorisation data sits in a small authorisation server >> that the system admins fully understand. > Agreed for 'real' users - the scenario I was trying to make simpler is > transient setups where you easily want to delegate actions 'top down'; > e.g. for a short lived projects and were your users are at peer > organisations. Uh-huh. I'd rather be doing global tokens than global usernames. -- Juliusz