From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass (mailfrom) smtp.mailfrom=irif.fr (client-ip=2001:660:3301:8000::1:2; helo=korolev.univ-paris7.fr; envelope-from=jch@irif.fr; receiver=) Received: from korolev.univ-paris7.fr (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [IPv6:2001:660:3301:8000::1:2]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20297962205 for ; Tue, 3 May 2022 22:07:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [81.194.30.253]) by korolev.univ-paris7.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/relay1/82085) with ESMTP id 243K723v008864; Tue, 3 May 2022 22:07:02 +0200 Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28263EEC19; Tue, 3 May 2022 22:07:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at math.univ-paris-diderot.fr Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10023) with ESMTP id 2vQgB4a8_NvG; Tue, 3 May 2022 22:07:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pirx.irif.fr (unknown [78.194.40.74]) (Authenticated sender: jch) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5942AEEC17; Tue, 3 May 2022 22:07:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 03 May 2022 22:07:00 +0200 Message-ID: <87v8um753v.wl-jch@irif.fr> From: Juliusz Chroboczek To: Dave Taht In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/27.1 Mule/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [194.254.61.138]); Tue, 03 May 2022 22:07:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Miltered: at korolev with ID 62718B66.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 62718B66.000 from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/null/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 62718B66.000 on korolev.univ-paris7.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.000 -> S=0.000 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Message-ID-Hash: BDRTT5MDNDNG5M2MAZ3MUBGQ7X32U3FH X-Message-ID-Hash: BDRTT5MDNDNG5M2MAZ3MUBGQ7X32U3FH X-MailFrom: jch@irif.fr X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: galene@lists.galene.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.5 Precedence: list Subject: [Galene] Re: Some poorly thought out feedback on git head List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Gal=C3=A8ne_videoconferencing_server_discussion_list?= Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Hi Dave, As you note, we have some problems with Safari. > a safari user had their self view freeze, Yeah, Safari will randomly pause videos at weird times in order to save battery. I've caught many such places, but I must have missed some. That's the main reason why there is a play button at the bottom of the video, which you can click if autoplay is denied by the browser. > an iphone user was unhappy about the iphone interface, in particular > seeing a black box where the chat window could have been. That's a new one. We definitely need more reports from Apple users. > If I let it go idle, several times I was logged out. Galene sends keepalives after 55s at most, on the assumption that the smallest NAT timeout it will encounter is 60s. I can easily reduce the timeout, let me know if you have a value to suggest. > In an earlier test, I'd ran a wireguard vpn (also with a tailscale), > both under lte, and it blew up - in one case, video couldn't get > through but voice could. I have not worked to figure out what actually > went wrong, it could be anything from packet size to a routing or nat > problem. That's a known issue with WebRTC, unfortunately: the connectivity probing is completely decoupled from the data plane, and uses small packets. If the probes get through but the packets don't, you get a blackhole. As a workaround, you can try typing =AB /set forceRelay true =BB and hitting reload. -- Juliusz