From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from srv1.stroeder.com (srv1.stroeder.com [213.240.180.113]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 932B17CD7DB for ; Tue, 19 Jan 2021 00:39:22 +0100 (CET) Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; dkim=pass (1536-bit key) header.d=stroeder.com header.i=@stroeder.com header.b=xHDI9LEu DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=stroeder.com; s=stroeder-com-20201114; t=1611013159; bh=9PcBF/8xFsQZfUDXSpmJNB+HcdVjAsLh2+v0VrMF3mk=; h=To:References:From:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=xHDI9LEuw65d6K+qzX9VgrihcCKn3GP+g/7jebczcSZpGNqH/uFy5V6ZxYaogLL7U 6mTrZBxq5G9bG1+vxCRfiaKEiMk76BDE8Xc7Anup3NoePHWO63Gf4wTtoe0j8AXUrj ec5Kmr9tI7ALzmotoG+X4m3sibrM1TunTt0qPE2J/DOts6eMaaI0Zel3wu830gyYzf 8g1RvsydU7IrQPj8WNPi81HJUa0GkXxlEw9hQ815GMIzVGXF0g/1tSSMkVG To: galene@lists.galene.org References: <87sg6yx7gy.wl-jch@irif.fr> <87zh16q61v.fsf@toke.dk> <87pn21yl6t.wl-jch@irif.fr> <87wnw9rjw7.fsf@toke.dk> <87mtx5yk96.wl-jch@irif.fr> <87o8hlridf.fsf@toke.dk> <87eeihyipm.wl-jch@irif.fr> <87lfcprgl4.fsf@toke.dk> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Michael_Str=c3=b6der?= Message-ID: <9365dbfd-11c7-7cf0-046d-951fa8fa541d@stroeder.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2021 00:39:19 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87lfcprgl4.fsf@toke.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: T3UA3QBOEMXJEMJIPYHS3T3VWU6R4XKX X-Message-ID-Hash: T3UA3QBOEMXJEMJIPYHS3T3VWU6R4XKX X-MailFrom: michael@stroeder.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.2 Precedence: list Subject: [Galene] Re: Heads-up: built-in TURN server List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Gal=C3=A8ne_videoconferencing_server_discussion_list?= Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On 1/19/21 12:05 AM, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen wrote: > Juliusz Chroboczek writes: >=20 >>> What about when the external TURN server is on a different IP, so Gal= ene >>> has no problem starting up the internal one, but it's firewalled off = to >>> clients can't connect to it? In that case presumably it'll just be >>> another TURN candidate offered to clients which will fail? >> >> The external TURN server will be tried first, so the latency of succes= sful >> connections will not increase. You'll just take more time to fail. >=20 > Right, OK. >=20 >>> (I think Firefox emits a warning recommending a max of two candidates= )? >> >> Yeah, I'm not sure why. I see no reason for that in the ICE spec, but >> perhaps Firefox are doing proprietary magic. >> >> At any rate, I'd expect somebody who goes through the trouble of setti= ng >> up an instance of coturn to be willing to add a command-line option to >> Gal=C3=A8ne. I'd like to understand why you and Michael appear to dis= agree, >> perhaps I'm missing something obvious. >=20 > Sure, I can add it, of course :) >=20 > It's just a bit of extra work;=20 > [..] > Just to be clear, I think turning on the TURN server by default is > totally fine to make it easier to deploy Galene! It's only the "overrid= e > user config" aspect I'm objecting to (and it's not a terribly strong > objection, at that). Toke summarized my own feelings, maybe just an emotional over-reaction against opening an unneeded service port. ;-) Just go ahead with whatever you consider appropriate. Ciao, Michael.