From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-io1-xd2c.google.com (mail-io1-xd2c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2c]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 578EF84E5F5 for ; Mon, 17 May 2021 22:29:53 +0200 (CEST) Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=GharpmYZ Received: by mail-io1-xd2c.google.com with SMTP id a11so7197080ioo.0 for ; Mon, 17 May 2021 13:29:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=b1SBwObsgJX0xhEHfQoMfIcBsLWzdIvKEoHsiAPmoso=; b=GharpmYZAEDuv7ThMlg113kOv+xlS/UGbyh7gGkxb7JkqbBMIxG8GuwAvANF/x0ODz gFrL0cSlreb1XCXKIjnMcRVcvE+bblhI+hl4Izu1Qnie6m01uZGDPXoo5hS8RaFtu5x0 uw1K5PFAfCTBBB7Zi7wRe0LqGQlpjNduVFIdtATcJ+JpaLgouORBU96nqNn/f9R3lFmC oCPF+7E3nFYN3zLXfd5jnLf2JTLcop+fOMVng+HOAhbS143WgYUckYmIDqrQYyfWgbba neNwqnbY4uq5RHr2kSN4TNOlFC7vAJQXhccyamh5SjGGF1G4f8FJS0gEj7eLzeIK6B3r IaMg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=b1SBwObsgJX0xhEHfQoMfIcBsLWzdIvKEoHsiAPmoso=; b=JD0Eci+DsSKVs587Orpb/8VQjW5exnCkM7aOL0CqkG2go0loYWdgqnDv4Oe5XLqq60 21XR5Z2k+69jozjvn06dQVAcogOMefRLTXcPeDoPaphsIQ4F/+OqaVn8ay1Tsi/FW7/k KInDupQxA2H6WiBcwgxY7s8N7t2Z9brEUijSanvQ2RW/ZqntBgJCKJ3v+hWiVjZsYXWF 1yeXPT/mn+pLLNJ/agzIUcZGffyxRr2hz6pVUrI31iu46Bxmu9BHH5FnBv5TOrSfc9Nh pbjbEIRwirfeCJEHg4XhNHyu80HGLTLxNnsWAACYY/S89dndZU5LpPrMWSdFtCk3Uj7Y aIiw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531yyFbb6qY8rR7WMxsXmZ+x0WEo3+Jc07ealncjy2pIxn3Bo7V+ XQsh3/SkPJWQHOdZ18YolaiC5pV703ZxsBttGfjmLPZyKekwVg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzlVodth5Qive0eeqYQ+wfHN0GrG/OPWWNtzS4kZLoUfeYjJT1WNcyFFiw5/w7M2UO1MLxu6jR+kP/e2+GGFjU= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6638:10c4:: with SMTP id q4mr1758836jad.29.1621283392264; Mon, 17 May 2021 13:29:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 13:29:40 -0700 Message-ID: To: Sean DuBois Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: ONIP3YKOKIV65BVTZLXXRNRRZODDV752 X-Message-ID-Hash: ONIP3YKOKIV65BVTZLXXRNRRZODDV752 X-MailFrom: dave.taht@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: galene@lists.galene.org, Frank Carmickle X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.4 Precedence: list Subject: [Galene] Re: WebRTC unConference this tuesday, would love more speakers List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Gal=C3=A8ne_videoconferencing_server_discussion_list?= Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: That's pdt. Sean,. So far as I know you are only a few miles from me (I'm in san leandro, california). shorter rtts than videoconferencing would be a goodness... I'd dearly like to put at least one up on bare metal if possible, also. everyone can find me here at 6PM PDT: https://tun.taht.net:8443/group/bufferbloat use any login you like, no password, chrome is best BUT testing a few browsers makes sense. On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 1:26 PM Sean DuBois wrote: > > Awesome. Is that 6PM PST? I am EST now. > > Send me an email + time you want to meet and will be there! > > On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 01:24:08PM -0700, Dave Taht wrote: > > Could we do a videoconference to discuss requirements? I'm busy til > > 6pm, available after. > > > > On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 12:43 PM Sean DuBois wrote: > > > > > > That would be amazing! > > > > > > Right now I just have one VPS I rented from Digital Ocean. If we coul= d > > > get multiple servers with galene + TLS that would make this way more > > > likely to be a success. > > > > > > I also made some minor modifications and generated 500 static groups > > > ahead of time. https://gist.github.com/Sean-Der/0e64e77d03c426dd08b49= 13b3323ddb0 > > > > > > On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 11:29:58AM -0700, Dave Taht wrote: > > > > I am deeply concerned that given the number of participants (300??)= in > > > > this conference tomorrow that the back end servers for > > > > it will overload, or we'll hit some bugs. I can spin up one or more > > > > hefty boxes in my cloud for it, even dedicated hw, and rather > > > > than give a talk, attempt to monitor and manage various system stat= istics. > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 6:11 AM Dave Taht wro= te: > > > > > > > > > > I see that my proposed talk is "unscheduled". I take it that mean= s it > > > > > didn't fit and needs to be scheduled for another event? > > > > > > > > > > I have time today to give it if desired. > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 10:42 AM Sean DuBois wr= ote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dave, > > > > > > > > > > > > That sounds like a really great talk! I haven't thought of thes= e > > > > > > problems before. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are interested I would love to help build a prototype of= the > > > > > > ideas you have. If we can build something that others find comp= elling I > > > > > > bet we could find contributors if it works. There are some good= existing > > > > > > Speech-to-Text Open Source projects, we just need to solve the = FFI > > > > > > maybe? > > > > > > > > > > > > The conference will run May 18th 2021, 5-8 PM CEST / 8-11 AM PS= T the > > > > > > home page is a bit better https://unconf.wonder.me > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 08:00:14AM -0700, Dave Taht wrote: > > > > > > > I proposed a session with roughly this text. I am cc-ing a fr= iend even more > > > > > > > blind than I am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Very cool. I note that my principal use for videoconferencing= is because I > > > > > > > am blind in one eye and deaf in one ear. Until the rise of we= brtc I relied > > > > > > > on skype and its emacs interface to cope with many interactio= ns and > > > > > > > I often find it difficult to find various icons and interface= s in all the webrtc > > > > > > > clients and web browsers I've been asked to cope with. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Discovering that the now common, and mandatory TFA texting me= thod > > > > > > > didn't work with skype, recently, was no fun. skype rings all= my devices, > > > > > > > nothing else does. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if I lose the other eye or other ear, I will have really = insurmountable > > > > > > > problems. Knowing this, I've worked really hard to make video= conferencing work > > > > > > > well, starting with my work in the rmcat working group years = ago, > > > > > > > and continuing with some excitement into galene now, where, f= inally > > > > > > > having access into a SFU, I can make a difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's oft kind of difficult for me to talk publicly about my p= roblems, > > > > > > > and ask others to help solve them... but I would really lik= e webrtc > > > > > > > clients to have working speech to text (and text to speech), = in > > > > > > > particular. 3d positional audio would be nice, also, using > > > > > > > ambisonics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also a debate feature where each participant would be limited= by the > > > > > > > software to a 2 minute speaking time with a visual clock, wou= ld be > > > > > > > nice. I've been harangued a bit too often of late, and merely= raising > > > > > > > my hand to invoke robert's rules of order not work well enoug= h. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I reworked what I just wrote into a generic "Improving webrtc= for people with > > > > > > > disabilities" talk... It's not clear what timezone the confer= ence is in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 7:30 AM Sean DuBois = wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey List, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The details are at https://unconf.wonder.me/event it can be= as short/long as you want it! > > > > > > > > I really would love first time speakers. Lots of interestin= g things happening in the space, > > > > > > > > we need new voices. Just share your perspective on WebRTC. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even if you have a germ of an idea share it and we can iter= ate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Robotics > > > > > > > > * Game streaming > > > > > > > > * Code bases/specific SFUs > > > > > > > > * Learning WebRTC and what you found challenging > > > > > > > > * Share your interesting project > > > > > > > > * Talk about what WebRTC needs. How can we improve it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This conference also will be using Galene! I wrote a tool t= hat generates > > > > > > > > rooms from a web form https://github.com/sean-der/unrtc-sch= edule-maker > > > > > > > > will write a README so others can use soon as well. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Galene mailing list -- galene@lists.galene.org > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to galene-leave@lists.galene.o= rg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Latest Podcast: > > > > > > > https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:67910142= 84936785920/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Galene mailing list -- galene@lists.galene.org > > > > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to galene-leave@lists.galene.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Latest Podcast: > > > > > https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:679101428493= 6785920/ > > > > > > > > > > Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Latest Podcast: > > > > https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:67910142849367= 85920/ > > > > > > > > Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Galene mailing list -- galene@lists.galene.org > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to galene-leave@lists.galene.org > > > > > > > > -- > > Latest Podcast: > > https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:679101428493678592= 0/ > > > > Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC > > _______________________________________________ > > Galene mailing list -- galene@lists.galene.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to galene-leave@lists.galene.org --=20 Latest Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6791014284936785920/ Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC