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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Sean DuBois <sean@pion.ly>
Cc: Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr>, galene@lists.galene.org
Subject: [Galene] Re: Future plans: Pion v4 and TWCC
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 09:57:29 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw6DNh1H7naiuzS2vADbLzxKRrdDKMz_DM5tdeW0+yjSrg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6F18A9C1-ED2E-4080-8B4F-11CF94F16347@pion.ly>

On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 5:16 PM Sean DuBois <sean@pion.ly> wrote:
>
> It does [0]
>
> It can use improvements though. I have been distracted by broadcasting/robotics recently, but I would
> love to come back to this.

yay!

>
> [0] https://github.com/pion/interceptor/blob/master/pkg/gcc/delay_based_bwe.go#L50

sigh. this reacts so slowly.... rc := newRateCalculator(500 * time.Millisecond)

Starlink would be interesting.
>
>
> On Jan 1, 2025, at 5:27 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 12:45 PM Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> The reason I've released 0.96 is that it looks like a rock solid version,
> and I'm planning to break things.  More specifically, I've just finished
> doing a straightforward port to Pion WebRTC v4, and I'm planning to make
> the following changes to Galene's protocol:
>
>  - use a separate RTX track for retransmissions;
>  - use TWCC instead of REMB for GCC congestion control.
>
> The RTX track will allow browsers to do more precise accounting of packet
> loss, which should improve behaviour under packet loss.  Replacing our
> home-grown implementation of REMB with Pion's implementation of TWCC will
> hopefully improve behaviour on congested links (it will no longer be
> necessary to manually switch to "Send: low" when on a slow link), but more
> experimentation is needed.
>
> This work is going on in the "pion-v4" branch, which I'll merge into master
> when I'm satisfied it doesn't break anything.
>
>
> Did delay and not just loss make it into pion?
>
> -- Juliusz
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Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-02 17:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-01 20:45 [Galene] " Juliusz Chroboczek
2025-01-01 22:27 ` [Galene] " Dave Taht
2025-01-02  1:16   ` Sean DuBois
2025-01-02 17:57     ` Dave Taht [this message]
2025-01-02 19:15       ` Tim Panton
2025-01-02  1:49   ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2025-01-02 17:58     ` Dave Taht

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