From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-io1-xd2c.google.com (mail-io1-xd2c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2c]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E08E860A08 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 17:19:38 +0200 (CEST) Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=hCO7NVYU Received: by mail-io1-xd2c.google.com with SMTP id l18so11403586iow.4 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 08:19:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rX0qDpE4clqEpgJEwPGsn80CivrwUGE1K/rheF6tptY=; b=hCO7NVYU27Wa9cVSH4mw0luRXIxhpktLGV7SYtPO6jzDfRT6EyLSpvGGd6ZrmBAct+ /gfblY+8Ld3Ehc2diWFDxBf1kR1lp2mlzRdJemPC/7X0P6xAfb9vBA4pHoVgd5iYgQAn ePM4sVJ8bmmHjChZ+ms5pYLkGKC7Bt8kgUiFm7qHQYCooGrHmSvYxbCH9ouAjXlaVtFx 9HTlrgxx1h7hbxz4joP5fsS2uOtDNVK+9Zd7b1HZs2ylX5bWI/v5pdAfLDRHVIvWXOi4 RPqmSO7T+YBkgr2wprO6RQRRyEyggUIE64W4mFd1rm8pkRPa4r7/M+McYBFeRYnvFJWA r37A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rX0qDpE4clqEpgJEwPGsn80CivrwUGE1K/rheF6tptY=; b=abQnasIqLVWOOe8KHgADwiiLwKxmHgg2G/7xpEcyXVsViOB4L+tOl/DHfuL4j270NH lZBZyy1NOQcwQndZV6qI/QixDax/brSyORidkX+1sI7TpVz9KaaMoWP12/HXHNUh224G z6hZYXyOaotAKAqzONDJgFgwU0VN8K1FX7q3z1dFnGh6thhONCa3iYGdh+KmNHEEuBGD lo+xA171ykkOS/QWpnt2hB8UwsvVcrdDFLPh9V33PwnLzGa258GESFNhF0Bh5E/TECcg TLPXc7i1MqXNxAdJ8cqRT3ncodMuWNM7hkEzty9639AMSuwSoyAC4cCp5R4KBoKuhir9 6phA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532WgzTlsqCUXGEHj7WLifd8yhcwT0N1cq2dmiVhadjHM/hN8VME FStOl2hm32PnAmn1O2YxxEoHdpHVH1l5HKL3jiapkSOrBh633Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzjIzJt8GhC8WGe2G+crXBJVvmZXg4Gxc5806pBzWFbEZEPvyz5AMFws35elcMBDt/Pn81mlHYx/z4xTQTAsoE= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:8bcf:: with SMTP id n198mr26279802iod.25.1625930376160; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 08:19:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 08:19:24 -0700 Message-ID: To: galene@lists.galene.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: PVRQR4XTRHRKXQ3FXQHN4SF372G5YMFF X-Message-ID-Hash: PVRQR4XTRHRKXQ3FXQHN4SF372G5YMFF X-MailFrom: dave.taht@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: T H Panton X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.4 Precedence: list Subject: [Galene] Re: using up more ports in ipv6 for better congestion control List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Gal=C3=A8ne_videoconferencing_server_discussion_list?= Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: the thread over here: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_apples-new-facetime-a-sip-perspective-= activity-6817609260348911616-p0kv/ On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 8:15 AM Dave Taht wrote: > > tim panton wrote me just now on linked in: > > "It is still possible. Just set bundle-policy to max-compat and you'll > get one stream for audio and one for video. Turn off rtcp-mux and > you'll get 4 ports (voice, video, voice-RTCP, video-RTCP) - But your > ability to connect will drop significantly (according to Google's > data) and your connection setup time will increase. Even with port > muxing congestion control is still possible, it just works > _differently_ - which arguably it should, because realtime video has > quite different needs from streaming or file transfer. Happy to have a > chat about this...." > > (so... chatting via email is preferred for me) > > I am also under the impression that the congestion control > notifications in rtcp are essentially obsolete in the rfc, mandating a > 500ms interval instead of something sane, like a frame? > > My other fantasy is to somehow start using udplite for more things. > > The context for this of course is my never ending quest to have an IP > based video and audio streaming system good enough to have a band > playing with each other across town. > > > -- > Latest Podcast: > https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6791014284936785920/ > > Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC --=20 Latest Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6791014284936785920/ Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC