[Galene] Re: Pyrite update

[Jeroen <jeroen@garage44.org>]

Op maandag 3 november 2025 om 12:40 PM schreef Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr>:

> 
> 
> >> Hmm... will it still be usable for casual videoconferences?
> 
> > With casual, do you mean that it should be possible to join a video
> > conference without registering/using an account?
> 
> 
> Suppose we need to discuss something on Galene. I generate a token in an
> autogenerated subgroup, send it to you over SMS or e-mail, and we're
> chatting.
Alright; I hadn't thought this through yet :)
I suppose each channel/group could have an invite option to start with? Groups that are locked 
or for some other reason not accessible due to permissions, won't show the option off-course. 
Now this still depends on an admin managed channel layout, which is not very flexible.

> 
> Suppose we need to discuss something on Zulip. I need to setup a group,
> then I need to ask you to create an account, which fails because I set the
> wrong permissions on the group, at which point we call it a day and go
> drinking with our respective friends.

But, users also will have their own private channel (Direct messages) in this setup. It may be an idea to 
create a matching dedicated Galene group/subgroup (e.g. users/<user>) for each private channel, 
so if a user wants to have a quick video conference/chat, they then can use the invite option 
on that dedicated channel. In this setup, a user doesn't have to think about channel creation 
anymore, because channel-less conferences exists at a fixed place (in a channel :)). The same can 
probably be accomplished with a separate "Start conference" button, but then where should the info 
about this volatile channel be shown? 

After a conference session, the chat will still be there for historical purposes. I'm not really sure if 
the latter is desired behavior. It may be nice to have some form of grouping of chat messages per conference 
and actions to optionally remove those from history (at least in a private channel)? Might also be a good 
place for the download of conference summaries.

I'm not really sure yet how that would work, as switching video on and off shouldn't cause too much 
noise and activity in the chat. Maybe when a conference lasts longer than a certain amount of time, 
with at least 2 participants, that it should leave some conference stats or that the conference stats 
are not part of the chat at all, but separate info in the context panel. 

> 
> The obvious conclusion is that Zulip causes alcoholism.
It is at least a good excuse for a drink at the pub :)