From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3CBC7C4264 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 14:16:18 +0100 (CET) Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kerneis.info header.i=@kerneis.info header.b=c93A01ue; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.i=@messagingengine.com header.b=pRTshobF Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB57B5C009F for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 08:16:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from imap3 ([10.202.2.53]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 03 Jan 2021 08:16:15 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kerneis.info; h= mime-version:message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:from:to :subject:content-type; s=fm1; bh=lxLH/zocqAkLLuHfsFRgywsFgMO42Gk 05obNjIn+yLw=; b=c93A01ue4yoZqdyAOZnpuzrULGdZIoQh4NvFiCsygT0r9zu i9qBb3i+w1RON08iel2Y7BPtQfpsvKQFkJ2vn+EVKTO03mpUzPw8SM39UEHrV5Ad lmXuoWTySPQf/unhRJPoZfUgoES7Qi2VKQK0egOW1vQYdbuaE25mQ7/38EvTj3uC k49Guj9GqWI7jrRaJatzKzUIa5KxowctsKOhNcH3svfItEgZm0kIdvrkeYk7u38L ba+EwnANL42PsXdbPgJMWMjGFi4Zl/QkncZp3qXwm0LTwlZSRbgoABEjEDuJ2mRp A1AhretctS24tbktt4eBX4M8m4N5DEIF17ADo0A== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=lxLH/z ocqAkLLuHfsFRgywsFgMO42Gk05obNjIn+yLw=; b=pRTshobFIIOaaD4S5NWUmQ HnaU1iGL4J9wkuWfgGRPXZ+Hc8IFKLWUwqb306AnsEXNOZuFuXGQ2Ivk2qJU56On 8jR88DT4ZzPktvhPq+X/3vfPNkMyO6LwttMUI/aeCOj6ROfO9KsK4mkdsE1Wv6hc 0sEnxq88bf+y8RL0NBDckJVfRB3WXow22vVsVjGwPjTrd+QxwUju5xRCcGJwbQLH qomC8K9UZG7qYEFpAZJr9YNUyjSXKuqmbqrDtMxjVUBKMdFYCgEE4hGaqeeYhoOu WwCRUDeCvDE9aoSHU/NeK4dT/zagKeKXL1PSW9pm4wxO7YC5gnAQxn0LH3NFUN9A == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedujedrvdefuddggeelucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpefofgggkfgjfhffhffvufgtsehttd ertderreejnecuhfhrohhmpedfifgrsghrihgvlhcumfgvrhhnvghishdfuceoghgrsghr ihgvlheskhgvrhhnvghishdrihhnfhhoqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeetieejffdufe dtleehleetfeejgfehffdugefffedutdfhvdefgeelgeeihffgvdenucevlhhushhtvghr ufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehgrggsrhhivghlsehkvghrnh gvihhsrdhinhhfoh X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 027104E00A1; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 08:16:15 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.3.1-61-gb52c239-fm-20201210.001-gb52c2396 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <87pn2m8f9o.wl-jch@irif.fr> References: <06ba1226-3eee-fc5b-12a5-ee3121faf33c@free.fr> <87r1n4lhi2.wl-jch@irif.fr> <87turzo4ji.fsf@toke.dk> <87pn2m8f9o.wl-jch@irif.fr> Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2021 14:15:55 +0100 From: "Gabriel Kerneis" To: galene@lists.galene.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID-Hash: W3CBLZBRF6NMV7BEE3NPDAF4NTII2JDQ X-Message-ID-Hash: W3CBLZBRF6NMV7BEE3NPDAF4NTII2JDQ X-MailFrom: gabriel@kerneis.info X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.2 Precedence: list Subject: [Galene] =?utf-8?q?Re=3A_suggestion=3A_=22others=22_in_config_file=2C_versus_=22anon=22_in_web_interface?= List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Gal=C3=A8ne_videoconferencing_server_discussion_list?= Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, 3 Jan 2021, at 11:51, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > >> A better name would be welcome, but "anonymous" is a bad choice -- an > >> anonymous user is just one that has an empty username. This is controlled > >> by the "allow-anonymous" field. > > > "muted" ? Why muted? Can't an anonymous user speak like any other? > Too close, it will lead to confusion. See, it's like "Juliusz" -- too > close to a name in English, people tend to mis-spell it. On the other > hand, nobody ever mis-spells "Chroboczek". (Except the administration of > the University of Paris, but they're a completely different category.) I have a hard time understanding the value proposition here, if users can pick arbitrary pseudonyms anyway. In the chat in particular, having distinct usernames to distinguish who is speaking (albeit anonymously) seems like a feature to me. What about not allowing empty usernames, but generating (distinct) pseudonyms automatically if left empty? Jitsi uses "a jitsi user" (maybe with an added counter #1), which I don't like very much. Google uses animals (at least for user icons), which reminds me of Ubuntu codenames. Gabriel