From: Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr> To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk> Cc: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>, galene@lists.galene.org Subject: [Galene] Re: Congestion control and WebRTC [was: Logging] Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 01:07:49 +0100 [thread overview] Message-ID: <878s9049pm.wl-jch@irif.fr> (raw) In-Reply-To: <87eeismnwy.fsf@toke.dk> > So in this instance a new flow happens when a new user joins and their > video flow has to be established to every peer? When a user joins, nothing much happens: remember that Galène is meant to be usable for lectures with hundred of students. When a user clicks « Ready », a stream with up to two tracks is established in the client->server direction. Galène then determines the set of clients that have expressed interest in this flow (through the "request" message), and establishes n - 1 streams in the server->client direction. In the bundle case (which is what we currently do), each of the flows is an RTP session (a UDP flow). In the non-bundle case, each of the flows is one or two RTP sessions, one per track. >> We do not currently implement the delay-based controller, which causes >> collapse if the sender is on a low-rate bufferbloated network. That is >> why Galène's client limits the rate to 700kbit/s by default (in the >> « Send » entry in the side menu). > Right, but the browsers do? They do, and Galène provides them with all the data they need to do their job. So currently you have state-of-the-art congestion control in the server->client direction, but only basic loss-based congestion control in the client->server direction. Which is good enough for lecturing (you usually try to give your lecture over an uncongested link) but sometimes suboptimal during departmental meetings (some people need to lock themselves in the attic in order to get away from their children). -- Juliusz
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-01-11 0:07 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2021-01-07 21:38 [Galene] Logging Juliusz Chroboczek 2021-01-07 22:45 ` [Galene] Logging Michael Ströder 2021-01-08 0:35 ` Antonin Décimo 2021-01-08 12:40 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen 2021-01-08 13:28 ` Juliusz Chroboczek 2021-01-08 13:52 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen 2021-01-08 14:33 ` Michael Ströder 2021-01-08 15:13 ` Juliusz Chroboczek 2021-01-08 17:34 ` Michael Ströder 2021-01-08 18:00 ` Juliusz Chroboczek 2021-01-08 15:34 ` Juliusz Chroboczek 2021-01-08 19:34 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen 2021-01-08 19:56 ` Juliusz Chroboczek 2021-01-09 0:18 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen 2021-01-09 13:34 ` Juliusz Chroboczek 2021-01-10 13:47 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen 2021-01-10 15:14 ` [Galene] Congestion control and WebRTC [was: Logging] Juliusz Chroboczek 2021-01-10 15:23 ` [Galene] " Juliusz Chroboczek 2021-01-10 22:23 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen 2021-01-10 22:44 ` Dave Taht 2021-01-11 0:07 ` Juliusz Chroboczek [this message] 2021-01-11 0:20 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen 2021-01-11 0:28 ` Juliusz Chroboczek 2021-01-11 0:30 ` Dave Taht 2021-01-11 6:23 ` Dave Taht 2021-01-11 12:55 ` [Galene] Multichannel audio [was: Congestion control...] Juliusz Chroboczek 2021-01-11 17:25 ` [Galene] " Dave Taht 2021-01-11 13:38 ` [Galene] Re: Congestion control and WebRTC [was: Logging] Juliusz Chroboczek 2021-01-11 15:17 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen 2021-01-11 17:20 ` Dave Taht 2021-01-12 1:38 ` Juliusz Chroboczek 2021-01-10 15:17 ` [Galene] Re: Logging Juliusz Chroboczek
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