[Galene] Re: Talk about Galène today (monday) at 17pm CET

["Michael Ströder" <michael@stroeder.com>]

On 2/22/21 6:32 PM, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:
>> What does "(requires manual tweaking on bufferbloatednetworks)" at
>> bottom of slide 19 mean?
> 
> Galène is supposed to automatically set a video bitrate that works for the
> connections of the users.  If the link from the sender to the server
> doesn't drop packets in a timely manner, Galène might overestimate the
> rate.  In that case, the sender needs to reduce their sending rate using
> the « Send » dropbox in the side menu.

Ah, didn't think of the manual end user action.

> Once that is fixed, Galène will accurately estimate the bottleneck
> throughput, and we can default « Send » to « unlimited ».  Right now,
> setting « Send » to « unlimited » may cause lag unless the bottleneck
> router is well implemented.

In my experience setting send quality even just to "low" or "normal"
results in pumping data traffic (up and down) even in a conference with
just two users. Hence my default is "lowest" and I let users manually
increase it for better screen sharing.

>> What does "multiple layouts" on slide 21 mean?
> 
> I'd like to be able to click on a video, and have the video appear in
> large (taking 3/4 of the browser window) and have the other videos appear
> as thumbnails in the right margin.

Ah yes.

Would it make sense to stop sending a video stream to a user if the user
displays only one of the streams as full-screen?

>> I agree with "Ready/Panic is not obvious". ;-) Sometimes users do not
>> understand that [Panic] does not mean logout.
> 
> Ideas?

Mainly [Panic] means disable video and audio.

Hmm, to me [Panic] and [Mute] sometime feel redundant. Would it make
sense to have simple "buttons" for enabling/disabling video, audio and
screen-sharing? Hmm, could be tricky for the user with browser's
user-interaction asking for access permissions.

>> Especially since the [Logout] link is too hard to find.
> 
> In normal usage, you just close the browser tab, no?

Ah, it seems my users and me are probably too disciplined. ;-)

Ciao, Michael.